On Thursday 11 January 2007 14:53, pds wrote: > > My experience is that SuSe doesn't have a problem shutting down. > At least FC5 & FC6 have a problem shutting down once I log in KDE or > GNOME. If I don't log in or only use a console then power off works. > I had seen somewhere on the list and a bug that dbus is a culprit. > > -pete Hi Pete. Tried that after your post. First booted up as far as GDM, then shutdown, but machine still refused to shutdown completely. Next booted up to init3, logged in as user, then used "halt" to shut down, but still no joy. During the last 2-3 hours I've been scouring logs. Dmesg, acpid, and messages. Ok here goes. I booted up FC5 with kernel 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 (the original one). After all the stuff that ends up in dmesg various daemons services are started. The first one to start with this kernel is "Acpi" as below. Starting Acpi Daemon OK This is verified by one entry in /var/log/acpid for today, even though I've booted other kernels today, but obviously because the acpid wasn't started for these other kernels, no entries are there. See below. /var/log/acpid: [Thu Jan 11 16:45:57 2007] starting up [Thu Jan 11 16:45:57 2007] 1 rule loaded [Thu Jan 11 16:46:21 2007] client connected from 2171[68:68] [Thu Jan 11 16:46:21 2007] 1 client rule loaded There was one entry also for yesterday, and the day before when I booted with this kernel, but I have rebooted using different kernels many times over the last couple of days, but with no entries in this log. Moving on to /var/log/messages. the first bit below is when booting with the 2.6.15 kernel (the one that shutsdown ok), the one I'm booted into at the mo. Jan 11 16:45:29 localhost syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Jan 11 16:45:30 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jan 11 16:45:30 localhost kernel: Linux version 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 (bhcompile@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc version 4.1.0 20060304 (Red Hat 4.1.0-3)) #1 Tue Mar 14 15:48:33 EST 2006 <snip> Jan 11 16:45:37 localhost kernel: ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008 Jan 11 16:45:38 localhost kernel: Allocating PCI resources starting at 50000000 (gap: 40000000:bfff0000) Jan 11 16:45:38 localhost kernel: Built 1 zonelists Jan 11 16:45:38 localhost kernel: Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/1 Jan 11 16:45:38 localhost kernel: Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic" The first line after the <snip> is the relevant one. Compare this with the output booting with a later kernel, as below. Jan 11 15:49:45 localhost syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Jan 11 15:49:46 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jan 11 15:49:46 localhost kernel: Linux version 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 (brewbuilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc version 4.1.1 20060525 (Red Hat 4.1.1-1)) #1 Tue Aug 8 15:30:55 EDT 2006 <snip> Jan 11 15:49:52 localhost kernel: ACPI: Disabling ACPI support Jan 11 15:49:53 localhost kernel: Allocating PCI resources starting at 50000000 (gap: 40000000:bfff0000) Jan 11 15:49:54 localhost kernel: Built 1 zonelists Jan 11 15:49:54 localhost kernel: Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/1 3 Jan 11 15:49:54 localhost kernel: Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic" The first line after the <snip> here shows "ACPI: Disabling ACPI support", and this ( and I'm convinced after some updates to FC5) is the same for all kernels later than the 2.6.15 one. Any Guru's out there that know whats going on here? I'm personally convinced that this problem started after some updates to FC5, which are only affecting kernels later than my 2.6.15 one. Which update is anybodies guess. Aaron has the same problem with FC6, but I presume the kernel that was installed, when he installed FC6 was a lot later version than my 2.6.15 one which shutsdown ok on FC5. The menu item "Services" shows "Acpid" as running, in the status box for the 2.6.15 kernel, but for any later kernel the status box is empty, although "Acpid" is on "Services" list, and shows a description of it. Trying to start it for the later kernels, I get a confirmation box saying that it's started, but still nothing in the status box, so obviously it's lying. This is a frustrating problem, especially as I have no idea as to which update has changed the behaviour of later kernels than the 2.6.15 one. Alright it's no big deal to have to press, and hold the start button on the machine to switch it off, but I shouldn't have to. Nigel.