On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 09:22 -0800, Norm wrote: > Tim wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 13:20 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > >> a similar setup in Beckley WV, using 16 XT's and 386's as dumb > >> terminals. Someone donated two Dickens Terminal Servers and I just > >> ran DOS on those machines and Qterm for text logins at 9600 baud. > >> People could use Pine and email to the internet just fine or play MUD. > > > > Not too many years ago I scored a collection of XTs, 286s, and a 386 > > from the local high school that was just going to dump them. I sorted > > out what worked, and a local disability group took them for their blind > > members to log onto their BBS to chat, do mail, and play games. Even > > what most would consider to be obselete, often has a use to someone. > > > > The lady who took them off my hands was confined to a wheelchair, barely > > able to speak or do anything physical, but you'd never guess that when > > you chatted to her on-line. Computers to her, were a liberating > > experience. Just for a change, she got treated the same as everyone > > else. > > > > > Tim > Your project is the type of project more of us in the IT world should > do. Too often people in IT are considered nerds and not part of the > real world, if a a group we use our IT skills to help the disadvantaged > and at the same time spread the use of Linux we can all feel we have > done something to help society. Well here's one of huge magnitude that needs Linux users to reclaim Open Source ground that Windows and Mac users have grabbed a hold of. http://www.croquetcollaborative.org Yeah, I'm gonna pang on this one until we get some interest started. People like Alan Kay are directing this project and if we snooze we lose. The project is completely Open Source, but from the people I am in contact with, there is for all intensive purposes very little participation shown by the Linux Community. We leave it to the Win / Mac crowd, someone will paste a "For Sale" sign on parts of it or patent Virtual Reality and then the crying towel gets tossed into the ring. And, it'll be our own damn fault. This is bigger than spreadsheets and databases ever thought of being. IMHO, it's the next Big Thing that can issue in the New Era. The dnload is supposed to work with Linux, Windows and OS-X. Guess which part is the buggiest? First introduced under Linux, it can't find openGL libraries out of the box. I'd REALLY like to see the Fedora Foundation and RH take this one under their wing as Alan Kay is also part of the $100 one-laptop-per-child project, as is RH and MIT. I'm using it for my OAR project to reduce the recidivism rate among the 2.7 million incarcerated in the US. As much as I cut up, I'm stone cold serious on this one. I want to put RH or Fedora on the servers with everything running as it should, and I'm no coder by any stretch of the imagination. I want to get Linux into public institutions, in this effort, before Bill Gates sees 2.7 million licenses. Ca! Ching! Please dnload it and check it out. See if you can figure out why it doesn't grok localhost, running a server and a client app on the same machine. I can't. It's beating my ass here. They don't connect and I think they should be able to, without having to have another machine on a local network. I hope some of you gifted ones can eyeball this thing and participate in the project. Thanx for any considerations, Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================
