Re: OS Future now that Fedora Legacy defunct

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Justin W wrote:

> That brings me to a related question I've wondered for some time: why
> do we have to download entire packages for updates? Why can't there be
> an RPM package similar to patches? Then you'd only have to download
> the difference in a package (and I don't mean a partial file, but just
> whole files that have been updates.

SuSE has something like this, called patch RPMs or delta RPMs: see
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/deltarpm/README. Fedora has steered away
from the concept to date.

Part of the problem with delta RPMs is that they can take up more space
and/or more download time: if most of the files have been recompiled
against a different version of a library or with a different version of
gcc, then one patch RPM could be more than half the size of the full
package. If the package is updated again, then you've either got to
apply two deltas to get from the original to the newest version (which
will be larger than just getting the full RPM), or mirrors[1] have to
carry two deltas (original to newest, and update to newest). And the
mirror would have to carry the full updated version as well (for people
who suddenly want to install the package for the first time), and
probably the original package.

Alternatively, you could get the mirrors to generate patch RPMs on the
fly. But that requires that they run special software just for the
Fedora mirror.

So far, it's been understood that many mirrors would be reluctant either
to see the storage requirement for Fedora increase too drastically, or
to run custom software just for Fedora.

See also the thread from
http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2005-March/msg00881.html
and http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2005-March/msg01031.html.

One thing that *has* happened is that Fedora has moved to more, smaller,
more independent packages for certain large pieces of software
(OpenOffice, X.org), which means that most updates don't involve storing
and downloading the whole kit and caboodle just because one file has
changed.

Hope this helps,

James.

[1] Places like ftp.kernel.org, which mirror a copy of the Fedora FTP
site, providing bandwidth and disk space.

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