Re: *ALMOST* longing for Windows stability

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On 12/6/06, Michael Satterwhite <michael@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> On 12/6/06, Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 09:05 -0600, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>> > Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>> > > On 12/5/06, Michael Satterwhite <michael@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >> About an hour ago, I logged off my kde session. My LCD monitor
>> > >> immediately went to a black screen - with no way of logging back
>> in -
>> > >> when the session ended.
>> > >>
>> > >> It took me 8 (eight) times going through a reboot process before
>> I could
>> > >> get FC5 to present me with a login screen. The first 7 times, I got
>> > >> either a black screen or an "Out of Range" error. Finally, it
>> presented
>> > >> me with a login screen and I was able to get the system up.
>> > >>
>> > >> I *KNOW* this isn't typical ... if it were, no one on the face of
>> the
>> > >> planet would be running Fedora. Unfortunately, that doesn't make
>> my life
>> > >> any easier - it is happening here.
>> > >>
>> > >> There are some real experts here. I know, they've helped me out with
>> > >> other problems. Does anyone know how to fix this? While a real
>> fix is
>> > >> what's needed, even a bypass - a way to get back to a login
>> screen when
>> > >> the system is acting up - would be a tremendous improvement.
>> > >
>> > > It sounds like X is hanging/crashing.  Can you boot to runlevel 3
>> > > successfully/reliably?  if so, then you should do so, start X
>> > > manually, and grab the X log to review.
>> >
>> > I really hate to show ignorance, but it's never stopped me before. From
>> > the grub screen, how do I get it to boot to runlevel 3? I'm more than
>> > willing to get information to help people help me.
>> >
>> > I'd agree with the crash when I get the black screen, but I'm not sure
>> > how that would cause the "Out of Range" errors.
>> ----
>> Press 'e' at initial grub screen. Use arrow keys to move to 'kernel'
>> line. Press 'e' to edit
>>
>> Add to end of line ' linux 3'
>> Press 'Enter' to save
>> Press 'b' to boot
>>
>> or
>>
>> After bootup, Press <Control><Alt><F2> to get a virtual console. Login
>> as root. Type 'init 3' and press enter (type 'init 5' to return to
>> runlevel 5 when you are done).
>>
>> If you are at runlevel 3, you can probably just fix the setup anyway by
>> typing...
>>
>> system-config-display --reconfig
>>
>> I suspect that your 'sync' rates are set too high for your LCD which is
>> why I suggested that you post
>
> It seems highly unlikely that the problem is xorg.conf, as he stated
> that it works fine some small percentage of the time.  Something bad
> is happening elsewhere.

Adding to it, a Google shows that this has been seen by other people ...
and not necessarily all Fedora users. I know that my Windows 2000 boot
comes up 100% of the time. Before I did a switch, my Kubuntu 5.1 system
came up 100% of the time and didn't crash at logoff. I'll agree that
something is happening somewhere (I love being specific <g>), but I
haven't the foggiest what or where. That's why I turned to the experts
here. The amount of knowledge in this user base is astounding.

So reproduce the problem, get the X log, and then we have something to
look at.  Right now, there's zero information.

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