Re: Proposed changes for fedora

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Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:10, Timothy Murphy wrote:

>> For example, does 0.1% or 1% or 10% have problems reading the CDs?
>> Who knows?
> 
> What would this really tell you?  If we were talking of commercially
> produced
> CDs then all would be burned, presumably, to limits normally acceptable. 
> As it is, there is the matter of manufacturer/age/condition of the burner,
> type of media used, application and method used to make the burn - and
> that's without the fact that the user may or may not have checked the
> download sha1sum and the burn's validity

In my experience, the issue often has nothing to do with the CD burner,
since the same problems occur - failure to read some rpm -
in much the same way if you try to install from hard disk.
Also I never seem to get any problems reading from CDs 
except during Fedora installation.

> I understand the frustration about the number of people talking about
> this, but I don't see how you could rule out all the variables.

If it were found that, say, 25% of users had problems with installation
this might encourage the Anaconda team to improve their product.
For example, it should be simple to allow a second read of the CD
in case of failure - Windows does this.
And I don't see why one should not be able to resume from the point
where things broke down.

But basically, Fedora claims to be user-oriented,
so there is an obligation to find out how the user fares.

In my opinion it would be better if the Anaconda team
concentrated on helping users get a basic system installed and working,
and leaving complications to be dealt with later.


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