Re: FC5 -> FC6 my experience

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On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 20:50 +0100, Roo wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:42:44 -0400, Michael Wiktowy wrote:

> The i586 bug is already known about.

BZ#?
Did you follow up on it in the -devel list -before- the release?

> The problem is not with "binary drivers". The problem is with the faulty
> Fedora install... one of many I've had. The post was an immediate report
> on the installation/upgrade of an FC5 system to FC6. Summary: about the
> only thing I can say for FC6, is that it's not as crap as FC5. For those
> not in the know, FC5:

Yeah, calling Fedora crap will surely get the attention of the devs to
your reports. Why didn't I think about it?

> 
> Broke my sound card. It was never fixed... had to get a new one.

Works just fine here. [TM]
(On ~20 different machines ranging from a 10 y/o laptop to 2 way dual
core workstations and 4 way dual core servers)

> 
> Broke my graphics card. The GTK developers made sure that anything after
> GTK 2.6 is so slow as to be laughable. I needed a new graphics card just
> to make my machine remotely usable. Never fixed -- unlikely to be fixed
> since GTK gets slower with every release. BTW: The old graphics card
> worked just fine under Win XP and Qt.

Works just fine here. [TM]
See above.

> 
> Broke my USB broadband modem (this was eventually fixed).

All USB devices work just fine here [TM].
(Printers, palm, bluetooth, usbdisks, joysticks, scanners, etc)

> 
> All of these were dutifully recorded in bugzilla, and with the exception
> of the broadband modem all were left to rot. Not forgetting the legion of
> SELinux problems that I encountered, recorded in detail, only to have them
> ignored and remain unfixed for two major release at least (privoxy...
> yes... I'm looking in your direction).

As shocking as it sounds, the Fedora devs are -not- your employees and
are -not- yours to command.
Yes, some bugs are left for dead and it's -your- job to try to get the
devs attention if you want them fixed. (Or, better yet, report the
problem upstream and try to help the devs help you - Gee, now that's a
novel idea!)

On the other hand, you can always bitch and moan. It'll sure get you
places.

> 
> Oh, and BTW: if you are going to accuse people of writing snotty posts...
> you should probably avoid doing it yourself, and looking like a silly
> hypocrite.
> 

Here's a question for you:
If Fedora is pure crap (in your eyes), -why- are -you- still using it?

- Gilboa

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