Re: how to access remote CUPS printer?

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:01:21 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:

> On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 17:16 -0400, Amadeus W. M. wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:00:16 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 13:55 -0400, Amadeus W. M. wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:28:35 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > How do I print to a remote CUPS printer
>> >> > from machines on which I am not root?
>> >> > On the remote machine, FC5, I am root.
>> >> > On the clients, FreeBSD and FC3, I am not root,
>> >> > but can open TCP ports.
>> >> > Is there a nonroot IPP client that can
>> >> > be used to print on a remote printer?
>> >> > 
>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Mike   hennebry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > "it stands to reason that they weren't always called the ancients."
>> >> >                                                       --  Daniel Jackson
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On the CUPS server you must make the print queues shared. The clients'
>> >> CUPS will automatically see the shared queues on the network. 
>> >> 
>> >> On the server, go to System->Administration->Printing, click on the 
>> >> queue you want to share, then Edit, etc. 
>> >> 
>> >> Oh, and you must have port 631 tcp and udp open on the CUPS server.
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > That is absolutely the wrong way to share printers using CUPS. All printers on the same lan as the server can 
>> > print to the server's printers by default. No configuration is required.
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> 
>> And exactly why is it absolutely wrong? It works flawlessly on 
>> my lan. And in fact if I don't make the queues shared on the CUPS
>> server, they are not automatically seen by the clients. Of course,
>> I can tell each client separately about the address of the server,
>> etc. Of course the clients on the lan can print to the server's 
>> printers by default, if the server tells the lan about its printers.
>> That is, if the printers are marked as shared on the server.
>> Am I missing something here?
>> 
>> 
> Well I absolutely should not use the word absolutely so loosely. There
> is not such a thing as marking a printer as shared under CUPS. That is a
> construct that system-config-printer has brought over from the pre-CUPS
> era. The printer server sends out browsing information to all the
> machines on the lan and the clients become aware of the printers
> available to them from these browsing messages of printers that are
> available. 

So let's not get entangled in semantics. The fedora printer config
utilities use the term "shared" for all you said above (which is
correct). 

> If you use the web interface on the clients you will see the
> printers on the server which have been browsed. All CUPS printers should
> be configured using the web interface. 

Says who?

> No marking printers as shared is
> necessary.
> 

What if I don't want a printer to be seen by some/all clients?

The most flexible way to configure the printer is probably by
editing the config files by hand. At first I thought you were trying 
to suggest a different configuration of the cups server. I see now
(as I suspected) that you're only suggesting a different interface
for configuring the same thing. The interface is off topic here.
The man wants to know how to print from downtown to his home printer.



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