On 7/5/06, Scott R. Godin <scott.g@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nowhere in this discussion have I seen "nvidia attempting to help" -- in point of fact, in the experience of others, which I have witnessed second and third hand, user bug reports get largely ignored in the general scheme of things. It's only the large corporate customers whose bugs get fixed in anything resembling a timely fashion. I'd love to see that change, but, that'll happen right around the time it goes open-source. :-P
Surely you're joking. I've submitted many bugs to Redhat's bugzilla for software that ships in their releases (both RHEL & FC), and very few of them ever see any attention. Redhat bows before their large corporate customers just like NVIDIA. You're deceiving yourself if you think otherwise.
It's only the REST of the system that suffered because of it. o Horribly corrupted rpm databases? Huh? o Trashed swap partition (how the HELL did that happen?) o Perms on /etc/rc.d/ and /etc/rc.d/init.d/ suddenly being 0644 instead of 0755 (explain that one, if you can) .. o memory errors on DRAM that's passed memtest86 running all night (at least 10 full test-suites, if not more), 100% cleanly?
What proof do you have that the nvidia X driver caused this? Thus far your only response was pointing to Mike Harris' personal FUD campaign against binary drivers.
All sorts of 'general weirdness' that crept in gradually over _months_, each re-install eventually resulting in different problems (some of which I've casually grouped together above, but none of these occurred during the same install. Each install was the eventual result of one of the above (plus a few others) after I noticed it and did my careful best to correct and preserve a system that I use on a daily basis.) If you saw this: http://phpfi.com/125284 Would the video drivers be the first place (or the second? the fourth? top ten?) you looked for the culprit? No? funny thing, *neither would I*... nevertheless nvidia was indeed the source of this and other strange problems. And that's the *only* time out of the five that I got anything conclusive recorded as far as error messages that indicated *something* was horribly wrong (_before_ things *went* completely wahooni-shaped forcing a reinstall), and led me to a real, practical, restored to full functionality, solution.
Again, what proof do you have that the nvidia X driver caused that crash? As you, yourself, noted, the nvidia kernel module is no where to be found in that backtrace.
So please, spare me. If it works for you, great. I'm happy for you. _Proceed with caution_. That road, however well-traveled, is not well-paved.
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