RE: Why does not a WiFi card work in Fedora, when it works in Debian.

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The problem I've found is that you don't know what chipsets in the card,
unless you get it and finds out the revision-level.

Its like my D-Link card it used to be a atheros card but they switched to
RaLink.
These manufacturers seems to change chipsets in a random matter, so one is
completely confused
and haven't got a clue what one actually is getting.

It seems that my local supplier, although the stock some two or three
different brands, only have rt61 cards. 

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden

Verus Amicus Est Tamquam Alter Idem 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 7:45 PM
> To: For users of Fedora Core releases
> Subject: Re: Why does not a WiFi card work in Fedora,when it 
> works in Debian.
> 
> Tomas Larsson wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Todd Zullinger
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:30 AM
> >> To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: Why does not a WiFi card work in Fedora,when 
> it works in 
> >> Debian.
> >>
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> >> Tomas Larsson wrote:
> >>     
> >>>>> Been struggling to get a rt61 card to work in FC4.  
> >>>>>           
> >> So-far with no
> >>     
> >>>>> success, not with the various rt61 drivers, nor 
> ndiswrapper.  But 
> >>>>> the rt61 chipset is reported to work in debian, why not 
> in Fedora?
> >>>>>           
> >>>> It may be that the module worked in an older Fedora 
> kernel, but as 
> >>>> Fedora keeps moving to keep up with the upstream kernel, 
> sometimes 
> >>>> things outside the kernel break.  If Debian ran the same version 
> >>>> kernel, it'd likely have the same problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> (Not just Debian either, the same applies to just about
> >>>>         
> >> any distro).
> >>     
> >>>> 		Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>> Ok, question is the, should I drop FC and go for another
> >>>       
> >> distro (said
> >>     
> >>> to be working) or should I get another card with 
> hopefully another 
> >>> chipset and start all over again?
> >>>       
> >> That's a fairly subjective question.  Is wireless the only 
> thing you 
> >> are about?  Have you tried some other distros to see if they have 
> >> other things that don't work but which work in Fedora?  I 
> doubt any 
> >> distribution is perfect for anyone, except a distribution 
> you build 
> >> for yourself.
> >>
> >> I have a system I built for a friend which includes a 
> Linksys WMP54G 
> >> card (using an RaLink RT2500 chipset).  This isn't 
> supported by the 
> >> stock Fedora kernels, nor by the vanilla kernel, but it 
> works out of 
> >> the box using Ubuntu.  I could have just gone with Ubuntu on the 
> >> system but then I'd have had to deal with other things that either 
> >> didn't work or worked differently than how I was used to.  So my 
> >> choice was to stick with Fedora on this system but to build the 
> >> rt2500 driver (I setup a system init script to rebuild the 
> driver on 
> >> each reboot if it isn't available, so on any reboot with a 
> new kernel 
> >> it will hopefully get built and installed automatically at 
> the cost 
> >> of about 30 seconds added to the bootup of a new kernel).
> >>
> >> The advantage is that I have a system which I know very well but 
> >> which also supports the one piece of hardware which is 
> installed that 
> >> Fedora doesn't support out of the box.  If I went with Ubuntu, I'd 
> >> still be learning about the subtle differences between it 
> and Fedora 
> >> and I'd have to keep up on them anytime my friend had a question.
> >>
> >> Your choice might be different.  Only you can answer that 
> effectively.
> >>     
> >
> > I do agree with you, I "really" don't want to change 
> distro, since I'm 
> > getting familiar with Fedora, but, I need that b..dy card up and 
> > running.
> > It seemms to me that quite a few cards are using RT61 now. 
> So getting 
> > a new card might turn out with the same problems.
> >
> > The biggest problem, I think, is that I don't know wether it is the 
> > driver, wext or wpa_suplicant that causes the problem.
> >
> > With ndis and windows-driver I cant set ssid nor anything else, 
> > wpa_supplicant nor wext don't seem to Do anything.
> > With the rt2x00 driver wpa_supplicant seems not to be able 
> to set the 
> > PSK, hence I can't accossiate.
> >
> > The original driver at RaLinkl site crashes the kernel so hard so I 
> > have to pull the batteries and the plug, in order to restart.
> >
> > Tried to ask questions on both wpa_supplicant and ndis 
> mailing lists, 
> > but there is no response.
> >
> > Any suggestions
> >
> >   
> If you're willing to get a new wireless card, 
> ipw2100/2200/2915 and atheros chipsets seem to have the best 
> driver support (from livna, atrpms, sourceforge itself, etc); 
> ipw chipsets are mostly in centrino-based laptops so I don't 
> know if you can purchase it separately, but if you google you 
> can find a list of cards with an atheros chipset.
> -Dan
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