Re: Cut, Copy, Paste Nightmare

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From: "Laurence Orchard" <laurence@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 02:18 -0700, jdow wrote:
From: "Laurence Orchard" <laurence@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 16:21 +0930, Tim wrote:
>> On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 14:00 +1000, Steffen Kluge wrote:
>> > Just do it the ^C/^V way then. Works just like in Windows. It is
>> > amazing you parade your lack of skill and/or knowledge and try to palm
>> > it off as some sort of Linux shortcomings.
>> >> Nice try with the insults, jackass, but CTRL + C or V doesn't work in
>> *all* applications, neither *do* all applications have right-click copy
>> and paste options, and neither does highlight and middle-click pasting
>> work in *all* applications.  You *have* to do combinations, some of
>> which have really annoying effects.
>> >> -- >> (Currently running FC4, occasionally trying FC5.) >> >> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
>> I read messages from the public lists.
>> > Hi All > > Through out this thread I have not read any SPECIFICS,
> which applications don't work?
> which window manager are you using?
> which application won't let you switch windows?
> > It seems to me that there is a lot of calling of the "system" without
> the detail to back it up, is it the "system" or a few buggy/misbehaving
> applications?
> > If the applications don't work the way you think they should, have you:-
> a) checked that you are allowed to do what you want, some applications
> won't let you copy data for security reasons, putting data in pictures
> on web pages for instance.
> b) reported the bug/feature to the application developers/supporters.
> c) checked your configuration to make sure you don't have something that
> is inhibiting the action. > d) checked that something you have done has stopped it working. One of
> my programs has to use CTRL + C to close files cos thats what the user
> wanted. Another user had used CTRL + v to trigger their own macro (in
> Excel!).
> e) have you documented the precis actions that work/don't work so we can
> look at the problem
> > Thank you for your time

1) When these problems bite I do NOT have time to debug them, create a
   fix, or even send a message to bugfart that there is a problem. I have
   my OWN problem to fix.

Can I ask what you do when Windows crashes
or one of Microsoft's applications doesn't work the way you think it
should?

Windows crashes? Could fool me. Do you still run that pseudo-windows
called SE?

2) The problem with the program and X-Windows should not exist in the
   first place.


I agree that problems shouldn't exist, but as far as I know only Buddha
has reached Nirvana.

I think you will find more problems elsewhere, with fewer people willing
to listen, do something about it or suggest an alternative.


> Laurence
> > p.s. and we are not kids, so PLEASE lets not get into name calling and
> play nice!

3) This is a Fedora Core mailinglist. What's this play nice and no name
   calling nonsense? (Of course, for an average "ix-ish" mailing list
   this one is modestly polite.)

End of the day, no-one is saying you have to use Fedora, if you prefer
other offerings, go use them, stop whining, be constructive.

That was humor, although I expect the humor impaired not to notice.

{^_-}   (I will note that the old Amigas had nicer cut and paste and
       clipboard behavior than I find in X applications.)

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