Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: pilot-link configuration is incomplete https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=280251 ------- Additional Comments From redhat-bugzilla@xxxxxxxxxx 2008-04-16 05:22 EST ------- Ivana: I agree that from a user perspective the main change they're likely to encounter (perhaps unknowingly) is the blacklisting, so it's important to mention it first. However, after the initial "what's changed?" question, the next thing a user thinks is "and what should I do about it?". This second answer is to use the libusb port options - and given that we're also trying to alert users who may have given up with pilot-link on Fedora, it's important we tell them what they should do differently (if they do what they used to - using /dev/pilot - it still won't work). I realise libusb has been built in since F7 (that's why I say "recent verions"), but there was no previous *need* to use it whereas now there is - this very bug started from using the old visor method on F7! We switched to using libusb to work *around* these problems. The HAL/PolicyKit configuration is secondary and "under the hood"; while it's essential to enable smooth use of pilot-link/libusb, a user doesn't need to know the full details *unless* they've previously manually changed the configuration in a way that might clash (perhaps while working around the broken config in previous releases). I think it's important to come at the release notes from a user perspective (mention -p usb: ), and to cover the most common problem we've encountered with the new setup in this bug (mis-configuration). I also suspect these will be the most likely source of new bugs (see bug #435266 which prompted the Release Note discussion), so best to head them off at the pass ;) In summary, I've structured my suggested release note as: 1) what's changed 2) what to do about it 3) what might go wrong and where to get help Putting the libusb bit at the end would swap the order to 1,3,2 - which I don't think reads as clearly. I agree libusb is too opaque a term - I've changed it below to "direct USB access". If someone in the wiki EditGroup could add me (krp/KevinPage), that would be useful - thanks! " The pilot-link package now blacklists the visor module by default. Users are encouraged to try the direct USB access present in recent versions of pilot-link. This is enabled by passing the "--port usb:" option instead of the serial devices used in the past (typically /dev/pilot or /dev/ttyUSB0). For example: pilot-xfer --port usb: --list HAL and PolicyKit have been updated to correctly set permissions for the necessary USB devices. If you have any existing manual configuration please ensure it is reverted to avoid possible conflicts. For further information see README.fedora included in the pilot-link package. " -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. -- Fedora-relnotes-content mailing list Fedora-relnotes-content@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-relnotes-content