Re: FooBar/Fedora Journal/FWN Future

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Hi JonRob --

Thanks for all of your work on this.  I can commit to being at the Marketing mtg. Tues.  I'll take a look at the wiki tomorrow.

   - pascal

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Subject: Re: FooBar/Fedora Journal/FWN Future

Any further thoughts on this topic?

We're hoping to come up with a proper name for $foobar by Tuesday's
meeting, and would certainly like to secure more feedback from the
News team about what you'd like your involvement to be, any
preferences for names that either specifically include or exclude the
News/Weekly News title (there's a list of suggestions on the wiki page
linked below), and any requirements you have for the platform?

Would be brilliant if you could direct any feedback on these issues to
this list, as well as to this wiki page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FooBar

Finally, it would be really great if someone from the News team would
consider attending Tuesday's marketing meeting. $foobar will likely be
the first item up for discussion, with proceedings kicking off at 7pm
UTC... will probably only take 15-30 mins.

Cheers!

Jon

2009/7/13 Pascal Calarco <pcalarco@xxxxxx>:
> Hi Adam and all --
>
> Great points and this is what I was trying to suggest as well in my response to JonRob.
>
> What we do in FWN is very much marketing-oriented, in the sense that we're trying to aggregate and summarize information from a wide variety of sources, about Fedora.  I think ideally a beat should cover material from multiple sources, as you suggest.  Dale does a good job of this with his virt beat.  I tried to do something similar with the OLPC beat for a brief time.  It takes much more work to cover additional sources and integrate this down to a beat, but I do think its something we should strive for.  To do so, we'd need more writers and perhaps a less regular publishing frequency as its a lot of work just keeping up a weekly.  Good discussion here, thx for everyone's thoughts.
>
>  - pascal
>
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> Subject: FooBar/Fedora Journal/FWN Future
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> I have been editing the Planet beat in FWN for about 7.5 months now, and
> I've noticed a few things. Given the recent discussions about the future
> of FWN, creating a Fedora Journal/Magazine and Project FooBar, this may
> be a good time to share some ideas that have been ruminating in my head
> for a while.
>
> The Planet beat is unique in that it represents a fairly broad
> cross-section of not only the people in the Fedora community
> (developers, contributors, users, etc...) but also a diverse selection
> of topics. Many (most?) of the linked posts cover themes also reported
> by other beats. It isn't a complete duplication of effort, as topics are
> usually covered from different angles, but it does mean that in order to
> get the full picture about anything, you really need to check all of the
> FWN beats to see what else might have happened.
>
> So now my [potentially heretical, definitely radical] thoughts: Would it
> be worth discussing the format of FWN itself? What would FWN look like
> if it was organized around "topics" instead of "sources" (what we
> currently call a Beat)?
>
> (As a sidenote: The Developments beat is probably the most
> complicated/time consuming beat, and I'm not surprised that no one has
> stepped up. The bar--and the barriers to entry--are incredibly high, and
> it was a valuable source of information, taken from an incredibly busy
> mailing list that understandably can be difficult to stay on top of.
> What I'm proposing may also make filling this hole in FWN a little easier.)
>
> I'm not suggesting that FWN be thrown out, or even that tomorrow we turn
> around and redesign the whole format. But in the wider context of the
> FooBar discussions, and in particular the possibility of finding
> software that can support new workflows, this may be the best time for
> any sort of change, if that is something that would work. I'm really
> only trying to start a bigger discussion, and the above ideas are just a
> starting point (i.e. feel free to throw them out). But in the long run,
> what is FWN's purpose? I would sum it up as "summarize and share
> information relevant to the Fedora community" so we should do that as
> best we can.
>
> -Adam Batkin
>
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