On 6/15/07, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Basically, I think there's two different audiences and use cases for "I'm pretty sure this is good, let's have people beat on it to make sure" and "this is probably a bad update but I need to have it tested and proven so I know what still needs fixing." The big question is, are we going to see sandbox repos that can enable this? If so, is it something of high or low priority?
These sandbox repos you want to see sound a lot like repos that have appeared sporadically in people.redhat.com on a per maintainer basis. Here's the problem with sandbox repos... how do I as a willing consumer discover which sandboxes exist at any given moment in time? Testing-updates already suffer from a discoverability penalty, even with the repository definition included but disabled in client systems. If maintainers are counting on my reading through the flood of the test mailinglist to notice that a sandbox has gone up... you can forget it happening reliably. And bugzilla only guarantees you that the people watching specific bugs gets a notice... but for rc releases you may need to cast a wider net than that looking for regressions...especially hardware specific regressions. If maintainers can't reliably tell people like me about sandbox creation so I can eat the rc packages.. then there's no bloody point in wasting the time letting this crap sit in a sandbox, collecting moss. Moss covered shards of broken glass still hurt when eaten, only difference is they are deceptively soft looking. I am concerned that the sandbox concept maybe defining usage cases too narrowly compared to size of the testing audience who are consuming any testing packages at all. Do we have stats on the consumption of testing-updates referenced to the consumption of released updates? -jef"uses test updates hoping to see a package result in a kitten maiming"spaleta -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly
