On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:13:07AM -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > > To be perfectly honest, I'm not completely happy with this process for the > final freeze either. This was an experiment for the Fedora 7 release, and it > went really well for the test release freezes. I agree that the final freeze > should be done differently, however I didn't want to change it at this point. Agreed. I think it should be changed for the next release, it is to late to change it now. But I wanted to voice out my concern so that things are changed next time. I already complained at the first time the release process was outlined but nobody cared. (As a side note, for the freeze there was still plague used and we hadn't to ask to push so of course it was better than for the release.) > Asking how many were rejected isn't quite fair. It's not the people who are > asking for tagging that I'm concerned with, it's the people who just don't > realize we're in a freeze and happily drop in a soname bump that breaks a ton That shouldn't happen if instead of make build, one have to do make release-build when we are in freeze. > of packages or other such acts without noticing that we're in a freeze and > doing such can cause problems with the release. This has happened in the > past, I'm not just being overly paranoid. I very much want there to be less > overhead, and I welcome any effort into the workflow that gets us there, but > at the same time we have to be able to manage a freeze and have control over > what gets in and what doesn't. That's why I think that rel-eng people could disallow a push and should have the last word, at least until the packager had time to say why he wants it. That's what was done for extras and it worked well -- although I agree that how it was done in extras is not necessarily suitable for merged fedora, especially because of the constraints linked with composing the release. -- Pat -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly