On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 15:56 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > I really don't have a problem in orphaning these packages, because my > > > interest in continuing to struggle with packages in Fedora drops by the > > > minute. > > > > If you were to do so, that would be quite sad. > > You still have your chances to change your workflow to something > sane, ... or at least to document it. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/DevelFreezePolicy and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoshBoyer/MergeHOWTO Those have been sent out multiple times. > Right now koji doesn't have any usable documentation nor is the workflow You keep saying that, but what documentation are you looking for? From a maintainers standpoint, all you need to do is 'make build' and follow the DevelFreezePolicy. > you are referring to documented anywhere - Not even your contained an > URL to this documentation. We've sent the above URLs multiple times to this list. > I.e. I consider all these EVR breakages rel-eng's fault and it to be > their job to handle them - period. If that is your final answer, we will have to come up with some way of dealing with those packages. Rahul is asking for them to be pulled from the repositories. I had hoped to avoid things like that since it doesn't really fix anything. Are you effectively orphaning your packages? > > And no, rel-eng cannot just tag them for you. We need some kind of > > input from the package maintainer as to whether they're safe to enable > > and make sure they don't break dependencies, etc. > ... because your work-flow is broken. Our lack of knowledge about every package that exists has little to do with workflow. > You guys should have branched rawhide before the freeze (BTW: you guy That very well could be. But the procedure would have still been the same. > now also seem to have inconsistencies been rawhide and the buildsystem. > Yesterday, I was facing packages which built in rawhide but failed in > the buildsystem). Which and how did they fail? josh -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly