Re: [F8/multilib] {,/usr}/{,s}bin64 (was: Split libperl from perl)

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On Thursday, 26 April 2007 at 19:13, Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 03:12:17PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 13:50 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 11:27:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 11:21 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 09:56:33AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 10:24 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:03:00PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > [... Changing all specfiles by splitting out bin subpackages
> > > > > > > > > > > vs simply defining a new _bindir ...]
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, but it does involve much more work to do.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Packaging is hard. Let's go shopping.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > No, the above is not hard to do, it is a straightforward thing to do
> > > > > > > that will occupy a full or more than one release cycle(s).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I prefer to get F8 with some new features as well and not only a mass
> > > > > > > review again. Which wil involve thre times as many packages as the FC
> > > > > > > merge review which we didn't manage to finish.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Actually, this one should be quite easy to automate.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We've spent too long trying to take short-cuts and do the easiest thing
> > > > > > in the _short_ term for multilib -- and it shows. It's time to start
> > > > > > doing it properly, IMHBCO.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Exactly and the proper thing for multilib is: Let it die, multiarch rulez!
> > > > 
> > > > Apparently you haven't understood what multilibs are.
> > > 
> > > Obviously your personal definition of multilib includes
> > > cross-compiling for x86_64 on i386.
> > Yes, because THIS is multilib'ing.
> > 
> > >  But we call multilib something else here, please adjust.
> > 
> > The concept of multilibs as being defined by GCC exists for than a
> > decade (More precisely: <= 1995). 
> > 
> > What you are naming multilibs is mixing architectures at run-time.
> > The correct term for this would be multi-arch'ing or bi-arch'ing as far
> > as the ix86 family is concerned.
> > 
> > Multilibs can be applied to implement multi-arch'ing, but actually
> > multi-arching isn't tied to multilibs at all.
> 
> OK, so we agree, we have a different definition of multilib than you
> do. since all on this list use multilib in the "mixing arch" version
> of the definition, please adjust, otherwise you only confuse us. :)

Please don't speak for everybody unless you've asked each and everyone
of us. I have the same definition as Ralf, for example.

Regards,
R.

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