On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:58:52AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > 1. In the future we should consider a mass rebuild of all packages > > around, but no later than test2 > > Hmmm, this was discussed in depth at the end of this thread: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-packaging/2007-April/msg00017.html > Some people would like to see a mass rebuild, some others are against it. > > I'm one of those against it. Reasons: > - Seems we have quite some users in country were internet bandwidth is > unreliable and costly. If we mass-rebuild everything each time those > users have to download a lot of new stuff where nothing changed besides > the release. that makes Fedora harder to use for them. And these users are running rawhide ? > - the update process gets much longer for each and everyone of us if > each package has to be downloaded and updated. > - the packages out in the wild are tested and known to work. Rebuild > packages have to proof again that everything is fine (which should be > the case most of the time, but in rare cases isn't) > > IOW: The benefits of a mass rebuild *each* devel cycle is IMHO not worth > the trouble we create for our users. I think a mass rebuild now and then > when the toolchain (things like gcc or other crucial stuff like rpm, > python,...) changed massively (round about probably every second or > third release cycle) is more then enough. Yeah, I'll agree with that. Off the top of my head, I can come up with three scenarios where rebuilds make sense. - Considerable bugfixes which fix up bad code generation. - new/enhanced features (such as more FORTIFY_SOURCE improvements) - new optimisations (We could even narrow the scope on this one to rebuild just packages that would show a notable difference. Ie, don't bother rebuilding fileutils, but do rebuild say, bzip2). Taking a look at the packages in my f7 mirror, I spot 52 packages that still have a .fc6 tag, none of which look particularly "omg, we have to rebuild this". There are also 713 with no %{dist} tag which include some which we definitly have rebuilt, so it's harder to figure out which of those got updated and which didn't. Dave -- http://www.codemonkey.org.uk -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly