On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 02:38 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:31:51PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 21:40 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 03:30:15PM -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > [...] it is pretty clear that there is not a small amount of work to > > > > be done, and I'd really rather not interrupt the mad dash to get > > > > things in before the Test3 freeze, since that is the Feature Freeze > > > > as well. [...] > > > > > > > Basically I want to give people a status update on where things are going, and > > > > what work still needs to be done, and what our expectations are. I welcome > > > > input around when and how to flip the switch and whether or not dropping > > > > this "feature" in after the feature freeze is acceptable. > > > > > > I'd argue that this feature is a meta-feature (e.g. it should not > > > really be observable when someone grabs the final product what kind of > > > buildsystem was used), so perhaps the feature-freeze does not really > > > apply to this part. So, I think it's acceptable to add it after test3. > > > > Yes and no. With a merged collection of packages (which can't happen > > before koji is in place), > > Why not? (Just curious, no disbelieve :) Technically it probably could happen before koji was in place if everything was just moved to Extras CVS and plague was used. But I believe koji provides some additional function that Jesse and Rel-Eng need to actually do freezes and composes. Particularly, tagging of packages to a collection. > > > you could potentially start enabling some features in what were Core > > packages that previously couldn't be done because the libs (or > > whatever) resided in what was Extras. > > It would probably mean that no BR from premerge-extras to > premerge-core will be allowed until then, which would be sad, but > probably bearable. Sure. > > What would you suggest otherwise as an alternative? Slip test3? No > feature freeze until test4? I don't have another suggestion and I think Jesse's and your's seem fine. I was just saying it wasn't exactly a meta-feature :). josh -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly