Re: FC7 plan comments

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Havoc Pennington wrote:
Jeff Garzik wrote:
J3) When is GNOME ever going to save/restore the sessions of apps other
than my terminals?  Firefox, Thunderbird, and xchat all claim X session
support, but GNOME never saves the window positions etc.


For this to work requires a complex interaction among the app, gnome-session, and metacity (or whatever WM). Said complex interaction is poorly specified and poorly tested. To understand the poorly specified spec, each of the app developer, gnome-session developer, and WM developer probably have to spend several days messing around. Even then they probably interpreted things differently. Finally, if the app was not written with the SM spec in mind, e.g. something like Firefox or xchat which are pretty cross-platform, the app may require significant code rearranging to have a chance of working.

If any of the app, SM, or WM get anything wrong, it doesn't work.

Users never know where to report the bug when it doesn't work, since it could be in any of the three apps.

Chances that this will *ever* reliably work for all apps you use: zero.

Historical number of apps it works reliably with: very close to zero.

Fundamental uselessness of XSMP specification for this reason: 100%.

Excruciating details: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-September/msg00088.html

Short answer, app window state saving won't work until somebody puts a bullet in trying to use XSMP to do it.


With FF2 if you just close the window it saves its state now and will happily restore, SM or not.

--Chris

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