Karen Pease wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 01:16 pm, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >> Jesse, I just don't think it's that simple. >> >> It's easy for us to state, as policy, that "if you wander off the path, >> Fedora will eat your babies." >> >> But *a lot* of people still take that risk when they don't understand the >> risks they're taking. At all. > > But the obvious issue is: why do people take that risk? It's simple: much of > what people want doesn't come with Fedora. > > Example: Lets look in Amusements/Games. I have my system set up to have about > a half dozen repos in addition to Fedora. Only perhaps a fifth of the games > listed are from Fedora. Where's Monsterz? Where's Nazghul? Where's > Crack-attack? Tong? Frozen-bubble? Pingus? Trackballs? Liquidwar? I can > keep going. > As a very active Fedora Extras Games SIG member let me cut in here: First: Crack-attack, Frozen-bubble, Pingus and Trackballs are all in FE and all at there latest version (I maintain all 4 of them). Also a quick yum list delivers: monsterz.i386 0.7.0-7.fc6 extras-developme nazghul.i386 0.5.4-2.fc6 extras-developme tong.i386 1.0-7.fc6 extras-developme Second about the others if they meet the FE license demands, why haven't you filed an RFE, please add any OSS games you want here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/WishList and/or here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Games I even take the trouble to talk to upstream to get license conditions changed if nescesarry, we for example have tremulous in FE because I managed to find out that the troublesome shaderlab Textures where relicensed on Debian requests to a suitable license. Unfortunately this wasn't documented anywhere and Debian still has tremulous in non-free (but thats because they believe that any of the Creative Commons licenses is non-free, not only the non commercial ones). And tremulous is just one example, I have also managed to get worminator (try it) released under GPL and ported it to Linux (from win32), and so I could go on and on. If you like monsters try crystal-stacker, another game for which I managed to get the license ammended to make it OSS, and then ported to Linux. So in short if you want more games: 1) let us know which ones 2) come and join the Games SIG and package a few yourself 3) Ask upstream politely to amend their license, you will be surprised how often they will comply when asked politely and you properly explain things. Thanks & Regards, Hans -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly
