On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 08:59 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > On 8/30/05, Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Warren Togami <wtogami@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > >> A fellow Fedora Extras contributor sends a private mail, probably to be > > >> treated confidentially, to another contributor. But the mail is rejected > > >> automatically due to rigorous or misconfigured SPAM filtering, IP > > >> blacklists or SPF problems. ... > > > > > If such a contributor is using CVS and is otherwise uncontactable, we > > > could easily get their attention by disabling their CVS access > > > temporarily. Such contributors are not very communicative and thus > > > would not see this note. > > > > I think you are oversimplifying this greatly. There are lots of people, > > me for instance, for whom the choice is either "spam filtering with > > teeth" or "abandon email, because you will never manage to find the > > real mail among the spam". I routinely reject several thousand junk > > messages per day using a combination of SMTP and procmail filtering. > > I really don't have a choice whether to filter (and I already spend > > much more time than I could wish tuning and maintaining the filters). > > > > This discussion seems to be headed in a direction fairly close to > > forbidding contributors from using spam filtering. That's not a recipe > > for improving communication; that's a recipe for losing contributors. > > > > I don't have a better solution I'm afraid, but I wonder whether this > > problem isn't being overblown. As long as you can contact someone via > > the mailing lists, you don't have a serious communication problem. > > Requiring contributors to keep an eye on certain specified lists > > doesn't seem unreasonable. > > > Hmmm, one solution would be to set up 'vanity' accounts on a server > that people who only want email from the build systems and such. > However this is higher burden on the fedora systems administration > staff in yet another machine to maintain. > > I was going to say that maintainers/contributers need to make sure > that they have some account that is freely available to people to send > email to .. but I hate agreeing with David on things :) well there are already the @fedoraproject.org aliases. there are a couple of us with write access to add those. -sv