Re: Friday Flames - What to do with RHL7.3/9 and FC1/2

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On 6/12/06, John Pybus <john@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tom Yates wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Jesse Keating wrote:
>

>
> RH has not had such a timetable.  nothing lasts for ever, so if it's
> felt we should drop them, i can happily get behind that decision - but i
> would ask that we give three months' warning.

I too have RH7.3 in production use, but feel that it's now getting
towards the time to end support.  As has been noted in this thread
that's a 4 year lifespan.  I'm not really impressed in that as an OS
lifespan, but in the current security climate, and with the difficulties
of maintaining old OSS codebases, that's the way of the world.



For a longer supported base in the commercial world, you have always had
to pay for it. Microsoft is probably the only one who has put a longer
time frame and they are back-peddling on it because it was too costly to
try and fix WinME for 7 years.

The old Red Hat support lifecycle was that the last minor release
(4.2,5.2,6.2,7.3) was supported until the next last major.minor release
was out.

?Timeline of Support contracts?
      Released    End of Life?   LifeTime
4.2    1997-05      1998-10       ~17 months
5.2    1998-10      2000-03       ~17 months
6.2    2000-03      2002-05       ~26 months *1
7.3    2002-05     ?2004-01       ~20 months *2
9.0    2003-04     ?2005-01       ~20 months *3

*1) if the series had ended at 7.2 versus 7.3 then it would have been
   ~17 months again
*2) if we go with 17 months then it would have EOL'd at ~2003-10. if we
   go with 26 months.. it would have EOL'd at ~2004-06. 20 months is an
   average of all known EOL's.
*3) if we go with 17 months then it would have EOL'd at ~2005-09. if we
   go with 26 months.. it would have EOL'd at ~2005-06. 20 months is an
   average of all known EOL's.

I think that Fedora Legacy has gone well past what Red Hat had done in
the past. I of course could have my dates wrong (4.2 might have been
supported until 6.0 was released which would give a ~24 month timeline
for 4.2/5.2 and a 30 month release for 6.2.)

Now, if the world had gone on the old release cycle.. Then we might have
seen the following:

Projected Timeline of non-existant RHL releases..
      Released
04.2    1997-05
05.0    1997-10
05.2    1998-10
06.0    1999-04
06.2    2000-03
07.0    2000-08
07.3    2002-05
08.0    2002-10
08.2    2004-04
09.0    2005-01
09.2    2006-07
10.0    2007-02

I think that at this point giving a 3 month EOL requirement for RHL
7.3/9 is ok.. and if people want to continue support.. then they can
fork over the standard $250-$500.00/hour that Legacy support of
operating systems has.

--
Stephen J Smoogen.
CSIRT/Linux System Administrator

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