I've just upgraded three machines with working installs -- one each of FC1, 2,& 3 -- to FC4. Those with 2 & 3 did fine, without a hitch. The FC1 machine hit a hard snag: it was failing yum update, leaving me with a raw media version, which among other things couldn't run Pine, my main app by an order of magnitude. The trouble was on my end, of course; one of my gurux found it, and a quick & easy fix for it. That will doubtless be blindingly obvious to the technically ept, but wasn't to me. Turns out the upgrade from FC1 is different than from FC2 or 3; somewhere along in there, big (and very good) changes were made in yum -- and maybe that's the reason. Anyway, FC2 & 3 changed their configurations automagically when I upgraded to FC4; but FC4 kept the old yum.conf I had had on FC1, gave me a new file, named yum.conf.rpmnew, to replace that with -- and didn't tell me so, or if it did I missed it or failed to understand it. I had spotted the fact that the old yum.conf was still FC1's (the legacy one, not the original), and moved it to a new yum.conf.fc1 to get rid of it; but I didn't know what to replace it with, much less that the replacement was already there and waiting, until my excellent guru spotted that. So I simply went into /etc as root; did "mv yum.conf.rpmnew yum.conf"; ran yum update again; and now it worked. Once I had a current FC4, Pine went back to working like the charm it is. -- Beartooth Neo-Redneck, Linux Evangelist FC 1&4, YDL 4; Pine 4.63, Pan 0.14.2.91; Privoxy 3.0.3; Dillo 0.8.5, Opera 8.01, Firefox 1.0.4, Epiphany 1.0.8 Remember that I have little idea what I am talking about. -- fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list