This is not in response to your question but...an ignoramous reports... I have RH9 and I thought htat after the endo of life up2date would not work but at the command line level it worked fine and I updated my kernel and other stuff a few weeks ago. Up2date seems to be keeping my system up to date. Tim -- fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list