Re: NO_HZ_IDLE on x86_64?

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> > On 12/12/19 9:10 AM, Justin Forbes wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 3:48 AM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hey All.
> > >>
> > >> In digging through some pieces around CPU_IDLE I noticed that
> > >> NO_HZ_IDLE is explicitly disabled on x86_64 but not on all other
> > >> architectures.
> > >>
> > >> Doing a "git log --follow
> > >> configs/fedora/generic/x86/x86_64/CONFIG_NO_HZ_IDLE" it goes all the
> > >> way back to 2016 when we changed the way the configs were handled.
> > >>
> > >> The upstream kernel's opinion [1] on it is "Most of the time you want
> > >> to say Y here." so I'm wondering if there's a reason why we're
> > >> difference on x86_64 or is it just lost in the winds of time?
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >> PS was digging around CPU_IDLE_GOV_TEO for those curious.
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/NO_HZ_IDLE.html
> > >
> > >
> > > commit 3836faf6e68495fc70316229a3540506f7ce4c98
> > > Author: Kyle McMartin <kyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date:   Wed Sep 17 13:10:12 2014 -0500
> > >
> > >      re-enable RCU_FAST_NO_HZ, enable NO_HZ_FULL on x86_64
> > >
> > >      - I also like to live dangerously. (Re-enable RCU_FAST_NO_HZ which
> > > has been off
> > >        since April 2012. Also enable NO_HZ_FULL on x86_64.)
> >
> > Yeah I wouldn't quite say it's been "lost" but the real question
> > is if it still makes sense. I don't have a strong opinion without
> > data. Prarit, any opinion here?
>
> Oh, I wasn't pointing out that it wasn't just lost, I was pointing out
> that NO_HZ_IDLE is not set because we run NO_HZ_FULL. We were one of
> the first distros to do so, and it has worked well for us.  I have a
> fairly strong opinion about not dropping back to IDLE without good
> reason.

This wasn't a proposal to change anything here at all, sorry if that
was the way it read. I was purely wondering, while digging through
stuff around cpu idle, for the difference between arches.

With the hit around NO_HZ_IDLE vs NO_HZ_FULL I dug some more and
basically it seems the reason we don't have the later on the non
x86_64 arches is because for some reason we unset
VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN for all except x86_64, it looks to be
historical, all our current architectures now look to support that
option. Anyone aware of any reason we shouldn't use the
NO_HZ_FULL/VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN as standard across all arches?

P
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