----- Original Message ----- > It really is simple. You don't cripple a mechanism so that you can > install a bad default policy. The kernel is providing a plain and > neutral mechanism here. If people agree that the default policy is > wrong, it is the policy that should change. While I strongly feel > that the default power behavior should not be hibernate, I also fee > pretty strongly that it should be very easy to people to change. Given the circumstances under which hibernation does not work, and which can be enabled unwittingly in our installer, and the side effects of it being used, I feel that a kernel command-line is a low enough bar to jump. Until the kernel can use a dedicated partition for hibernation, which would fix the majority of problems users can encounter, we're just offering more sharp edges with which to cut themselves. (as a side note, UPower also uses systemd's Can* methods to check for the availability of power saving methods, and to activate them) _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx