Re: Duplicate touchpads on XPS 13

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On 1/6/18 22:50 , Timur Kristóf wrote:
On Thu, 2018-05-31 at 13:44 -0700, Laura Abbott wrote:
On 05/24/2018 04:13 PM, Timur Kristóf wrote:
Hi,

On the XPS 13 9360 and 9370 xinput sees two touchpads instead of
one:
⎡ Virtual core pointer                        id=2    [master
pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST
pointer                  id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ DELL07E6:00 06CB:76AF
Touchpad              id=12    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics
TouchPad                  id=17    [slave  pointer  (2)]

dmesg also gives me the following:

[    1.429811] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Your touchpad (PNP:
DLL07e6
PNP0f13) says it can support a different bus. If i2c-hid and hid-
rmi
are not used, you might want to try setting
psmouse.synaptics_intertouch to 1 and report this to
linux-input@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

The Dell one is the real touchpad, the other one is an artifact of
the
psmouse driver. Weird touchpad freezes and jittering issues can be
observed when both of these devices are there. The general advice
on
the web is to blacklist the psmouse driver. (This is also published
by
Dell as a .deb package which contains a config file doing just
this.)

However, on Fedora I cannot blacklist the psmouse driver because it
is
compiled built-in instead of as a module. Could you guys change the
Fedora kernel config to compile it as a module instead?

Thanks & best regards,
Timur

So assuming nobody else has objections, I think it's okay to at
least try this on rawhide and see if it uncovers any other problems.

Thanks,
Laura


Looking into this a bit more, the root cause of this issue is that the
touchpad is wired up in such a way that it is accessible on both PS/2
and I2C. I2C is preferred and used by i2c-hid but at the same time the
PS/2 interface is also picked up by psmouse. Thus, Xorg sees the two
interfaces as two different devices.

That is fairly standard and doesn't matter. This was also the case for earlier SMBus implementation but the common thing was that the PS/2 device never actually sent events. So it was only an issue for some tools that expected only one touchpad to exist (e.g. synclient). Check with evemu-record whether the device sends events. if not, then Xorg is definitely not confused by it. If it does and both event nodes send events then yes, we have a kernel bug there.

Solution would be to somehow remove the psmouse-detected device node
from the system when i2c-hid detects the same device. Is this possible?

This is more an upstream discussion, CC-ing benjamin for details.

I do recommend filing a bug with an evemu recording of a freezing/jittering interaction. Lots of touchpad processing happens in userspace and this could be the cause of pressure thresholds set too high. CC me on that bug and I can have a look. sudo libinput debug-events --verbose will also show extra information including things when a touch ended based on its pressure information.

Cheers,
  Peter
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