On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Paul Moore <pmoore@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:08:14 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 03:49:18PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: >> > On Mon, 2015-07-06 at 09:39 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Mark Wielaard <mjw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209492 (an to this email) >> > > > to revert the yama config setting to the upstream default. This fixes >> > > >> > > That would make the sysctl file systemd just added on your request >> > > completely pointless and actually incorrect because changing the value >> > > wouldn't work at all. >> > >> > Yes, that is a downside of the patch. You won't be able to switch the >> > default value anymore. But if we cannot do that by installing the sysctl >> > file in either the kernel or systemd the alternative would be to hunt >> > down and fix all individually packages that rely on ptrace working >> > normally. Which seems unattractive to me if the fix in the kernel is so >> > simple. >> >> It took some time but we eventually came up with a solution. Stephen >> Smalley who added the support for yama originally to the fedora kernel >> agrees with the approach. And Paul Moore is making sure this gets merged >> upstream. Attached are commits for f22, f23 and master. Please let me know >> if you need anything else to get these applied. > > For the record, I don't really consider this a long term solution as the risks > associated with ptrace() still exist. While Mark and a few others on the BZ > are happy to discount the risk, I am not. However, my current workload > doesn't allow me to keep arguing with Mark so I'm looking into ways to leave > Yama in the kernel, but disabled by default. If someone else is able to > continue fighting for ptrace restrictions at this point in time, I would > suggest adding yourself to the BZ. > > Also, it appears that the patch I posted last week isn't really viable > upstream due to a general distaste of setting sysctl defaults with CONFIG > settings. I have another thought, but I think that discussion is better had > on the BZ than on this list. Right. This is what I meant by "carrying a patch forever" in the bug. And because of that, I'm probably not going to apply this to Fedora. If you have a link to the upstream conversation I would appreciate it. josh _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel