Re: mtime of untouched files changed?

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Am 19.05.2015 um 17:25 schrieb Eric Sandeen:
On 5/19/15 4:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
i switched from "noatime,nodiratime" to
"relatime,nodiratime,lazytime" which seems to lead in unexpected
mtime changes for a lot of files leading in rkhunter alerts and
likely rsync problems

The cargo-cult tuning, it burns!  ;)

noatime implies nodiratime, no need to specify both:

and "relatime" implies it too?

touch_atime()
{
...
         if (mnt->mnt_flags & MNT_NOATIME)
                 return;
         if ((mnt->mnt_flags & MNT_NODIRATIME) && S_ISDIR(inode->i_mode))
                 return;

different story

and relatime is default, so no need to re-specify:

         /* Default to relatime unless overriden */
         if (!(flags & MS_NOATIME))
                 mnt_flags |= MNT_RELATIME;

Anyway ... you didn't say what kernel you were running under, or what
filesystem.

surely you just stripped that part from your reply

May 15 13:35:51 Installed: kernel-core-4.0.3-201.fc21.x86_64
May 15 13:35:54 Installed: kernel-modules-4.0.3-201.fc21.x86_64
May 15 13:35:55 Updated: kernel-headers-4.0.3-201.fc21.x86_64

If it's ext4, there have been some flaws there; recently:

yes, "lazytime" implies ext4

commit 8f4d855839179f410fa910a26eb81d646d628f26
Author: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@xxxxxxx>
Date:   Thu May 14 18:19:01 2015 -0400

     ext4: fix lazytime optimization

     We had a fencepost error in the lazytime optimization which means that
     timestamp would get written to the wrong inode.

     Cc: stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Signed-off-by: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@xxxxxxx>

which looks like it's probably the culprit.  This was broken since:

commit a26f49926da938f47561f386be56a83dd37a496d
Author: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@xxxxxxx>
Date:   Mon Feb 2 00:37:02 2015 -0500

     ext4: add optimization for the lazytime mount option

wow - and nobody noticed all the months that mtimes are randomly changing all over the system while it takes exactly one day to get rkhunter mails and rsync listing a ton of untouched files

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