It should have read/write permissions assigned to the current seat. ----- Original Message ----- > On 12.05.2015 09:00, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 12-05-15 03:22, poma wrote: > >> On 11.05.2015 20:05, Hans de Goede wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> On 11-05-15 18:50, Peter Robinson wrote: > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> Hi All, > >>>>> > >>>>> This weekend I lost 2 hours figuring out why supertuxkart would not > >>>>> recognize a standard logitech usb gamepad. > >>>>> > >>>>> After 2 hours I found out that the problem is that some games > >>>>> need to joydev module to interact with usb-hid devices as > >>>>> the use the /dev/js interface rather then the /dev/input/event# > >>>>> interface, once I had installed kernel-modules-extras everything > >>>>> just worked, the module auto loaded stk recognized the gamepad > >>>>> and things just worked (tm) which is what I believe is the > >>>>> experience we want to offer ootb. > >>>>> > >>>>> Therefor I would like to request for the joydev module to be > >>>>> moved from kernel-modules-extras into the main kernel-modules > >>>>> package. > >>>> > >>>> A bunch of games use the means we now have to specify a "Requires: > >>>> kernel-module(joydev)" style syntax so it doesn't matter where the > >>>> module resides (sorry, don't know the exact syntax offhand). > >>> > >>> I do not think that sprinkling "Requires: kernel-module(joydev)" > >>> all over the place for something which is really just core functionality > >>> which apps should be able to rely on is a good idea. Esp. not when > >>> we are talking about a module which is 6784 bytes on the filesystem. > >>> > >>> Also these requires have funny side effects, they cause dnf to > >>> install kernel-debug rather then kernel-modules-extra when the > >>> module is not already present on the system which sorta defeats the > >>> purpose. > >>> > >> > >> What rhbz is it? > > > > The one which you are going to create for it ? > > > > Just do: "dnf install joystick-support" on an F-22 system without > > kernel-modules-extra installed to reproduce. > > > > Regards, > > > > Hans > > In that context, may I ask, if /dev/js* still has to be world readable? > > /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:SUBSYSTEM=="input", > KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", > MODE="0664" > > > _______________________________________________ > kernel mailing list > kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel