Re: [Fedora 15/19] kexec: Export sysfs attributes for secureboot and secure modules to user space

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On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 02:40:39PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 20:49 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> 
> > I did what Eric Biederman suggested. I first unshare the mount namespace
> > of /sbin/kexec from parent. Then I disable any event propogation between
> > mounts. Then I lazy unmount existing /proc and /sys and remount them. I 
> > think this should make sure that we are seeing at /proc and /sys as
> > exported by kenrel?
> 
> Namespaces have mostly been used with the assumption that namespaces
> contain child processes, rather than parent processes attacking
> children. Are we guaranteed that (barring ptrace) a parent process is
> unable to manipulate a child's namespaces?

This is a good question and I don't know enough about namespaces to
be able to answer it.

I am CCing Eric Biederman and he should have an Idea.

Eric, 

So this is in context of kdump an secureboot. We were discussing to be
able to create a private mount namespace for /sbin/kexec and remount
/proc/ and /sys so that /sbin/kexec is sure that it is looking at
something as exported by kernel.

Is it possible for unsigned parent to now maninpulate child /sbin/kexec
mount namespace now? 

Thanks
Vivek
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