Re: [PATCH 1/4] ptrace: temporary revert the recent ptrace/jobctl rework

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On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:16:34PM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
 > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 06:07:44PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
 > > Temporary revert the following patches to keep utrace/utrace-ptrace working:
 > > 
 > > <huge list of patches here>
 > > 
 > > This obviously reverts some user-visible fixes, but the fixed problems
 > > are very old and minor, they were never reported. In the long term we
 > > need another solution.
 > 
 > Dude, that's just not acceptable, that's way too much offset to deal with
 > against upstream, especially since it's looking like uprobes will get
 > merged in 3.1... (at least, a lot of the comments seem to have been
 > well-addressed on linux-mm.)

I have still yet to see a justification why we want to continue carrying utrace
in Fedora at all. And "We want it in RHEL" isn't a good enough answer.

It's been FIVE years that we carried that thing without it getting upstream.

What benefit is there in continuing to carry this thing at all ?
Utrace has been an absolute disaster from a merging standpoint.
Even Xen didn't take this long to get upstream.

	Dave

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