On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:51:20PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Wrong, except for laptops until very recently every single standard machine sold > came with a floppy drive. In the university where I used to work all new machines > came with a ... floppy. That is all 2000 of them. > > Where are your numbers, statements like EVERYONE and NOBODY really are quite > meaningless without some solid numbers to back them up. > Alright, whatever. I have no interest in arguing this. >> PNP only reports the presence of the controller, not >> the drive. >> > > Wrong again, on most machines the presence of the PNP0700 id in the PNP data > depends on the setting of the floppy drive type in the BIOS, set it to None > and PNP0700 id goes away. > No, it's just like everything else. This is how the BIOS /should/ work, theory and practice are seldom similar. This bit Dave, and it bit me on all my machines, across a variety of vendors. > Erm, you *completely* failed to respond to my upstream argument, if this is > as clear cut a decision as you make it, why don't you take it upstream ? > > This whole discussion really is quite simply, there are 3 options here: > > 1) floppy driver autoloading on pnp info is a bad idea -> > take it upstream > > 2) this is a gray area -> > let not deviate from upstream, discuss upstream > Upstream is irrelevant. They don't make an OS, we do. > 3) floppy driver autoloading is fine, people with problems need > to be educated to properly configure their BIOS > This is ridiculous. > Also note that anaconda is autoloading the floppy driver on every install, > so if it would really be the cause of a lot of problems, we (the anaconda > team) would have been overwhelmed by bug reports about this by now, which > surprise, surprise we are not. > The issue is that probing the controller with no drives attached causes extremely long boot delays. That's why we removed the module aliases. regards, Kyle _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel
