2009/1/21 Avi Kivity <avi@xxxxxxxxxx>: > Christopher Brown wrote: >> >> May I point out that those that care enough to want PAE usually know >> how to go about getting it enabled whereas those that have install >> failure because they're running non-PAE hardware probably wont know >> how to go about getting it disabled. >> > > You mean, ordinary users don't care about security? Because that's one of > the advantages that PAE brings. No, I meant ordinary users don't care about anything over 2GB. > You're right, they don't care, we have to care for them. They do care about security but want it to be easy. Or simply don't want to have to care. >> The fall-out from this going onto the livecd makes me shudder. >> > > You're pushing out a development problem to the users. Um, no. I'm simply against cutting out a tranche of people because of the needs of the few. We have x86_64 Live anyway. >> The original argument that many machines have 4GB of memory is simply >> false. > > My ~3yo home box has 4GB. I'm not an ordinary user (or it would be a > computer, not a "box"), but I don't think you can claim 4GB is rare. Rare for this use case, yes. >> Manufacturers aren't shipping anything more than 2GB on >> desktops at most unless you have oodles of money to throw at a >> Alienware box or something. Sure, servers come with more but Fedora is >> not really a reality for a long term server O.S > > Servers should use x86_64 anyway. But I strongly disagree about penalizing > the future to cater for the past. I'm not sure you're penalizing the past, I think this is penalizing the present. -- Christopher Brown _______________________________________________ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list