Re: .0 KDE releases have terrible track record, so...

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On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 03:57 +0000, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > I currently use Xorg but will try to adapt to Wayland, even though
> > > it
> > > still doesn't properly support session save/restore.
> > >
> >
> > While it didn't make it for 6.0, there are plans to get some
> > rudimentary support in 6.1 (due out in June):
> >
> >
> That's disappointing. I was prepared to try the "rudimentary support"
> but if even that isn't going to be available I'll probably have to hold
> off updating to F40.

Depending on what a backport could look like, we could try to
ship it sooner. But at this point, I'm confident in it shipping in

> > Session restore stuff will be enhanced over time, I imagine.
> I cannot stress enough that this is *basic functionality* for a desktop
> system. It's standard across Windows and MacOS systems and users expect
> it to work (even if it doesn't work very well on Xorg). I simply do not
> understand how people use desktops that don't implement this. Are they
> really restarting every app *manually* every time they log in? I find
> this astonishing.

This functionality does not exist in Windows or macOS. There is a
"relaunch all the things open at time of shutdown/restart" feature in
macOS, which is what that merge request implements. On Windows, some
applications will mark themselves to auto-launch on login in the
registry, which sort of emulates this capability on a per application

Session restore is a concept that has basically never existed in a
cross-platform way, and that's a big part of why it has never worked
well in most applications. It's just not important enough to deal with
when it only works for a subset of X11 desktops.

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