Hello everyone, After updating to F34, I was unpleasantly surprised by the new Plasma update notifier (plasma-discover-notifier). Even though the previous plasma-pk-updates thing had its quirks and Apper also wasn't the most featureful of package managers, I still ran into a handful of issues with Discover that make it pretty much useless for me: – There seems to be no way to select which updates to install. All I can see is a list of available updates with a button to install all of them, but no way to pick and choose a subset. (Yes, I could use commandline DNF with a whole bunch of "-x" arguments to get the job done, but the point of a GUI is to make things more user friendly, isn't it?) – I can't seem to find the description of individual package updates (the short changelog that plasma-pk-updates shows when you click a particular package, together with Bugzilla or Bodhi links). Again, getting these any other way than through the GUI updater is a real hassle. – The tray notifier doesn't let me actually do anything directly, I have to wait for it to open a full Discover window and spend a long while loading the updates, which is much more disruptive than the few seconds needed to trigger updating through plasma-pk-updates. I can see how many people nowadays might prefer the "app store" feel of Discover to more traditional package managers, so I'm not saying Discover shouldn't be the default. However, can't we keep plasma-pk-updates as an alternative for those whose needs aren't covered by Discover? Right now, one can install f34 build of plasma-pk-updates from Koji and everything works fine, but plasma-discover-notifier comes with Obsoletes: plasma-pk-updates < 0.5, which I find a tad aggressive (forcing replacement of not only any current version of plasma-pk-updates, but also any versions to come). What about changing that to only obsolete whatever the highest version is in F33 (so that everyone still gets the new default on upgrades), but still letting people manually install plasma-pk-updates on F34? It's not like plasma-pk-updates has a lot of dependencies or receives many new features, so future maintenance burden should be minimal to negligible. Unless there's a better solution, I'll just build plasma-pk-updates on Copr with a bumped epoch (and Conflicts: plasma-discover-notifier). That should get the job done, but it would be nicer (and more discoverable) to keep it in the main repos. 2T _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure