Hi, My story with kde4-workspace continues , now I had upgrade to F24 , I choose just update to +1 to understand what is been retired from kde4 bits, I follow Rex Dieter work and I'm much very grateful to him . Like I already express , my goal is isolate kde4-workspace features and make it possible have kde4-workspace and kde5-workspace (plasma5) installed at same system, the rest of kde is kde of the system i.e. KDE 5. Now the report of upgrade F23 to F24 [0] by itens : 1 - kde-runtime may provide org.kde.kuiserver [1], kde-runtime.spec have %if 0%{?plasma5} && 0%{?fedora} < 24 %global kuiserver 1 %endif may we extend life of kuiserver ? by change to 0%{?fedora} < 26 ? 2 - from `dnf list extras` I have kde-connect-kde4-ioslave.x86_64 1.0.1-1.fc23.1 kde-connect-kde4-libs.x86_64 1.0.1-1.fc23.1 so same happens on kdeconnect %changelog * Tue Dec 27 2016 Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> - 1.0.3-1 - kdeconnect-1.0.3 (#1408570), drop kde4 (compat) kioslave before this commit we got #if 0%{?fedora} < 24 %global _with_kde4 1 #endif can we extend life of kde4 kdeconnect (to f25) ? 3 - baloo [3] is a strange case, I had to build with %define plasma5 0 to not delete kde4 stuff and to build baloo and baloo-file packages , we just have baloo-libs in fedora proper ... how baloo works in plasma5 ? (it was working on F23 kde4-workspace) 4 - The major hacks for F24 was on kde4-theme-core split from plasma- workspace [4] and add kdm-settings to kde-workspace and many others things from the official fedora package [5] 5 - for example kactivities works without any modification from Fedora official package which is built with plasma5 , because we have (new) package kactivitymanagerd , which provides /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd ! As final note for what I see , upstream try keeps kde4 stuff healthy , in different components so seems , that kde4-workspace could exist for more time Best regards, [0] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sergiomb/kde4for23/monitor/detailed [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1249157 [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/kde-runtime.git/tree/kde-runtime.spec [3] http://copr-dist-git.fedorainfracloud.org/cgit/sergiomb/kde4for23/baloo.git/tree/baloo.spec?h=f24 [4] https://bitbucket.org/sergiomb2/kde4-fedora.v3/commits/a402bea8496eed1681e9dda2eef2fe50f7acd0ba [5] https://bitbucket.org/sergiomb2/kde4-fedora.v3/commits/d5f3151d2e91b40143b1059b04e485f615369a6e -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx