Hi list, The Fedora 22 update to Plasma 5.4.3 this past weekend was rather painful. After fully applying the F22 updates from 'stable' on Nov. 13/14, with KDE updates including plasma-workspace 5.4.3-1.fc22.x86_64, kwin* 5.4.3-1.fc22 (some of these arrived on Nov. 13, some others on Nov. 14), I had an unusable desktop - Wallpaper, widgets and KDE panel missing - A few windows appear but are not responsive - kdeactivitymanagerd crashes almost at every login with tons of crashes (highly repeatable) in kf5-kded kf5-kactivities plasma-workspace First I wanted to revert the Plasma updates, but 'dnf downgrade' did not allow me to revert to the previous version, only to a much older version -- Any idea why downgrade does not work? - Has the previous Plasma version disappeared? Can this be fixed? Then I found some discrepancies between Plasma package versions that are in "stable" for F23 but still in "updates-testing" for F22, namely: kf5-kded, kf5* (stable: 5.15.0-1.fc22.x86_64; updates-testing: 5.16.0-1.fc22.x86_64) kf5-kactivities (stable: 5.15.0-1.fc22.x86_64; updates-testing: 5.16.0-1.fc22.x86_64) plasma-workspace* (stable: 5.4.3-1.fc22.x86_64 ; updates-testing: 5.4.3-2.fc22) After locating the Plasma 5.4.3 announcement https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.4.3.php the solution was obvious: # dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing update plasma-workspace # dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing update kf5* Apparently, muon is needed for fixing some things in apper (see above announcement), but muon was missing entirely on my system (which was upgraded earlier from Fedora 20 -> 22). # dnf install muon At this point, Plasma 5.4.3 (including my external monitor) worked reasonably well with a new user account, but not with my existing user account. So, I decided to clean up my existing user account as follows: Logout from KDE, open a VT and backup config as follows: $ cd $ mkdir kde-old-config $ mv .config ~/kde-old-config $ mv .local ~/kde-old-config $ mv .kde ~/kde-old-config At this point, Plasma 5.4.3 is stable for my existing user account (at least as stable as 5.3.2 ...). My main question is whether the "KDE update experience" for users of Fedora 22 "stable" can be improved in the future. Are there any dependencies missing between Plasma 5 and KDE Frameworks 5 releases? Thanks, ______________________________________________________ Fredy Neeser, Ph. D. Research Staff Member Cloud & Computing Infrastructure IBM Zurich Research Laboratory CH-8803 Rueschlikon, Switzerland _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org