On 30 October 2015 at 13:40, Mark Haney <mark.haney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think we're all in agreement that Fedora (and other distros) should treat > Gnome and KDE the same and let the users decide. I don't completely agree > that KDE is over-complicated due to dogma. I, like a lot of people I know, > don't want to install a crap-ton of GTK+ packages to run Gnome Apps anymore > than Gnome users don't want to install a ton of KDE libraries to run KDE > apps. Personally, I've found the KDE apps to be more stable and more > user-friendly. Gnome does nothing but change for the sake of change, not > for any sort of 'evolutionary' reason. That's a dogma I can't stand. Gnome > is not friendly enough for new linux users, nor for those who come from the > Windows world (like my parents). Not to mention, several of the Gnome > maintainers are rude, patronising gits who think they know what's best for > us. If I wanted that attitude, I'd have stuck with Apple or Microsoft. > No no no, you've just failed to understand the genius of their design, which is proof itself that you don't know what you're talking about. ;) just in case it's needed... (Though FWIW I don't have much problem with mixing best of breed apps if it means picking up a few dependencies, software is only a small fraction of the total data I keep. This thing desktops environments develop where they want to proliferate into an exclusive 'ecosystem' isn't much in the interests of users. I happily used K3B for years under Gnome before I switched to KDE.) -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org