Kevin Kofler composed on 2015-09-16 23:47 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> That is in part because both cannot coexist on the same installation. >> OTOH, KDE3 can coexist and is still available. And in Fedora, TDE can also >> coexist with v5. > That explanation is incomplete. No 2 major versions of KDE can coexist in > the same prefix. The reason OpenSUSE's KDE 3 is parallel-installable (with > KDE/Plasma 4 or Plasma 5) is that they used the /opt/kde3 prefix for it. > They stopped doing that with their KDE 4 packaging and now use the standard > /usr prefix instead. So they are now stuck in the same situation as we are. Just guessing, using /opt might have been so that kde2 and kde3 could have been released in parallel, as happened with kde3 (in /opt) and kde4 (standard), to avoid what happened when kde3 was deprecated in favor of kde4 before it evolved into a similarly competent replacement. In openSUSE, kde3 remains available in standard repos, though it's not available as a primary DE selection in its installer. ## host gx27b # grep PRETTY /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE 20150819 (Tumbleweed) (i586)" # which startkde /opt/kde3/bin/startkde # rpm -qf /opt/kde3/bin/startkde kdebase3-workspace-3.5.10.1-391.9.i586 ## host gx150 # cat /etc/*lease SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) OSS VERSION = 10.0 LSB_VERSION="core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-noarch:core-2.0-ia32:core-3.0-ia32" # which startkde /opt/kde3/bin/startkde # rpm -qf /opt/kde3/bin/startkde kdebase3-3.4.2-26 ## host gx150 # cat /etc/*lease SuSE Linux 9.3 (i586) VERSION = 9.3 LSB_VERSION="core-2.0-noarch:core-2.0-ia32" # which startkde /opt/kde3/bin/startkde # rpm -qf /opt/kde3/bin/startkde kdebase3-3.4.0-28.2 > It is possible to do packages that use a custom prefix, but it is not > allowed by the packaging guidelines (so those would only be acceptable in a > Copr) and it is also a nontrivial amount of work to get right. > The alternative would be to put up a Copr with KDE 4 packages that REPLACE > Plasma 5, but then you'd need to bump the Epoch of every single package and > also add Obsoletes to undo the package splits from the Plasma 5 packages. > That's also a nontrivial amount of work. > The third alternative would be to go and rename every conflicting binary or > library in downstream patches. For having done something like that for the > small subset of library files (mostly -devel package files) that conflicted > between kdelibs/kdebase 3 and 4 (this part is much better with kdelibs4 vs. > KF5, where upstream addressed such conflicts), I can tell this (doing this > for ALL KDE files) is probably by far the most work out of the three > options. #4: install TDE in Fedora. Starting with r14, versioning was changed, and filenames starting with kde were terminated. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org
