Am 15.09.2015 um 15:51 schrieb Emilio Recio:
Sorry, I agree with all that, but have to add the missing system tray!
systray was part of my initial posting * it don't work for applications which where used with Exec=ksystraycmd while the UI still offers it and does nothing else than add it to the command * it don't work with "alltray", klick on Thundebird, Eclipse or "rdesktop" and the windows disappears and never comes back * no idea if the developers only work with short tasks but i know nobody which is closing his mailprogram and IDE all day long to start it again while the space in the windowbar is not endlessly BTW:i guess the 30 seconds waiting at login are caused by *repeatly* try to start "upower" and "networkmanager" - both are not needed on a workstation behind a UPS with static network configuration
"upower" in fact is masked because the machine of my co-developer a few weeks ago startet to power of the monitor directly after login into KDE and since "upower" is gone that don't happen - i know that this is a bug somewhere but it's not worth to dig around remote in case of services with no business in the current setup
Sep 15 16:08:38 rh.thelounge.net sddm-helper[7444]: pam_unix(sddm:session): session opened for user harry by (uid=0) Sep 15 16:08:39 rh.thelounge.net org.kde.kded5[7471]: Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL Sep 15 16:08:39 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:08:39 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:39 rh.thelounge.net polkitd[1194]: Registered Authentication Agent for unix-session:132 (system bus name :1.397 [/usr/libexec/kf5/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1], object path /org/kde/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale de_DE.UTF-8) Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.NetworkManager' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service' Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service': Unit NetworkManager.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.NetworkManager' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service' Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service': Unit NetworkManager.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:40 rh.thelounge.net org.a11y.Bus[7471]: GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications. Sep 15 16:08:41 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:08:41 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked. Sep 15 16:08:41 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:08:41 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked.
Sep 15 16:08:41 rh.thelounge.net systemd-logind[844]: Removed session 131.Sep 15 16:09:05 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:09:05 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked. Sep 15 16:09:05 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Sep 15 16:09:05 rh.thelounge.net dbus[882]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'upower.service': Unit upower.service is masked.
On 09/14/15 18:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 00:19 +0300, Eli Wapniarski wrote:On Monday 14 September 2015 20:17:33 Reindl Harald wrote:so, upgraded to F22 honestly, before these fools of kde-developers start to think about KDE6 they better go out and drinling some beers for 5-1^0 years and no progress at all - if it ain#t broken don't fix it - seriously and before the next time Fedora decides to switch to KDE6 or whatever major release wait until the currently used one is really out of support AND THEN PEOPLE WONDER WHY LINUX DESKTOPS HAVE NO BIG MARKET-SHARE, FRANKLY WITH THE EXPIERIENCE KDE3 -> KDE4 / KDE4_> KDE5 I WOULD BE A FOOL TO RECOMMEND TO ANY NON-DEVLOPER SWITCH TO ITOK... Now that we have heard more than enough complaints.... How do we revert back? This is a serious question. I have yet to hear anyone compliment KDE5 in anyway shape or form.Maybe because people mostly post when they have something to complain about. Off the top of my head, my only problems with KDE5 are: 1) SDDM doesn't support gnome-keyring, so I have to use KDM 2) Session Restore still doesn't work properly 3) I get Plasma crashes pretty much every time I logout, but not otherwise, and no freezes (touch wood) Everything else seems to work for me. I'm using the Nvidia driver, if it matters.
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