After updating my system today I decided to follow the recommendation from tracer and restart kdeinit4 to see what would happen (normally I would just log out and in again). $ kdeinit4 kdeinit4: Shutting down running client. Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) KDE Daemon (kded) already running. kbuildsycoca4 running... kbuildsycoca4(9927)/kdecore (services) KServicePrivate::init: The desktop entry file "ServiceMenus/servicemenueditor.desktop" has Type= "Application" but is located under " "services" " instead of "apps" kbuildsycoca4(9927) KBuildServiceFactory::createEntry: Invalid Service : "ServiceMenus/servicemenueditor.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(9927) VFolderMenu::loadDoc: Parse error in "/home/poc/.config/menus/applications-merged/xdg-desktop-menu-dummy.menu" , line 1 , col 1 : "unexpected end of file" What does this mean? Could it be related to the fact that Plasma and Kmix crash every time I log out? poc _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org