host fi965 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X600/X600 SE] using radeon driver F23 x86_64 freshly dnf upgraded from last same about 10 weeks ago (4.2.rc8 kernel) initial screen corruption eventually clears to black plasmashell PID 1621/1667/1687 segmentation fault (11) multi-user.target startup -> startx IIRC, theme selected is whatever alternative to Breeze was found, likely Oxygen If I un-disable compositing (set via xorg.conf*), crash notifier never appears, and screen corruption remains until Ctrl-Alt-BS .xsession-errors is not being written no BRC bug on point less than 5 months touched last found After clicking off notifiers, screen goes black. No response to Ctrl-Alt-BS with keyboard configured via default /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf. Ctrl-Alt-Fn works. Ctrl-Alt-BS works after fixing 00-keyboard.conf and restarting X. IceWM works normally on same installation. F22/KDE works normally on same host. Tumbleweed works normally on same host, though it's still using as much of KDE4 as remains available, Breeze is not there used, and Oxygen fonts are not there installed as a form of locking out Plasma5. Same problem on same host with freshly upgraded Rawhide. Prior kernels 4.1.rc2 and 4.0.rc4 didn't help. While in 4.0.rc4, something exhausted freespace on EXT4 F23 /. On reboot, it recovered to 37% free of 4.8G total, and dnf clean all brought free to 39%. I replicated with variation on host big41 with rv380 radeon, but by incrementally dnf upgrading and starting after each increment. On the 5th group, kf5*, the trouble started. Excerpt from dnf.log containing the cuplrit: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dnflog-badKF5.txt The variation on host big41 (F23) is that the splash/desktop background and progress window paint instead of the screen corrupting. Post-crash the background is black. I shut it down, moved the VGA cable to the onboard Intel 4000 port, removed the rv380, and the problem disappeared (1440x900 @108 DPI). I shut it down again, installed a G84 (GT8600), put VGA cable on its #1 DVI port via adapter required for the LCD, and the problem remained gone (working 1440x900). I shut down again, put in an ATI Cedar, connected the VGA cable to it, and again booted to a working 1440x900 Plasma desktop. To follow up, I went to an ATI Radeon rv200 installation, dnf upgraded its (30 July) F23 to today's, and it works as expected, before and after today's upgrade. Suggestions welcome, not sure whether this should have gone to xorg list, test list, devel list, somewhere upstream, or straight to BZ, instead of here in kde. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org