On 11 August 2015 at 17:56, Dan Mossor <danofsatx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/06/2015 10:20 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> >> Based on our prior kde-sig meeting, we'd tentatively agreed to pursue >> considering using a default browser different than konqueror. >> >> I'm proposing we consider using firefox by default instead. >> >> Secondary proposal: keep konqueror installed as a secondary browser (and >> file manager, etc). It's runtime footprint is only ~6mb. >> >> I asked some Plasma workgroup member(1) members for votes on irc, and >> those >> without documented votes yet include: >> Martin Bříza (mbriza): no vote >> Kevin Kofler (Kevin_Kofler): no vote >> Than Ngo (than): no vote >> Lukáš Tinkl (ltinkl): no vote >> Dan Vrátil (dvratil): no vote >> >> This message is a call for formal +1/-1 vote from these folks. >> >> Please limit this mailing list thread to votes only, and start new >> thread(s) >> if you wish to continue discussing the the pros/cons on the topic. >> Thanks. >> >> >> -- Rex > > > I missed today's meeting due to $dayjob duties, but I wanted to take a > moment to note that after careful, deep consideration, I feel this is the > wrong way to go. > > Granted, installing an alternative browser is one of the first things most > folks do after discovering that the only thing available is Konquerer, but > that is a conscious choice by the user - a choice that they may not realize > then pollutes their beautiful Qt based desktop with GTk cruft. > > The correct avenue here, in light of the news from the upstream products, is > to keep the status quo regardless of the lack of usability. When we finally > get a fully-featured Qt based browser, that is when we switch. We DO NOT > switch to a GTk based browser that has zero integration with the Plasma > desktop - single click selection of files and directories within Firefox > doesn't even work, let alone the theming and other issues. Ironically, those > two items, as well as integration with kWallet, work fine with Google Chrome > (which is not a choice in this discussion). > Well, there was a third option: don't ship a browser. If Konqueror is not suitable and only a KDE application could be shipped then that would have been the thing to do. However I use a KDE desktop (but not the KDE spin) and Firefox, and I don't find myself thinking whenever I log in, "I really wish this was better integrated with Plasma". The first I will do when Firefox gets kwallet integration is find out how to turn it off. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org