Re: proposal: switch default browser on plasma spin to firefox

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On 11 August 2015 at 17:56, Dan Mossor <danofsatx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 08/06/2015 10:20 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>
>> Based on our prior kde-sig meeting, we'd tentatively agreed to pursue
>> considering using a default browser different than konqueror.
>>
>> I'm proposing we consider using firefox by default instead.
>>
>> Secondary proposal: keep konqueror installed as a secondary browser (and
>> file manager, etc).  It's runtime footprint is only ~6mb.
>>
>> I asked some Plasma workgroup member(1) members for votes on irc, and
>> those
>> without documented votes yet include:
>> Martin Bříza (mbriza): no vote
>> Kevin Kofler (Kevin_Kofler): no vote
>> Than Ngo (than): no vote
>> Lukáš Tinkl (ltinkl): no vote
>> Dan Vrátil (dvratil): no vote
>>
>> This message is a call for formal +1/-1 vote from these folks.
>>
>> Please limit this mailing list thread to votes only, and start new
>> thread(s)
>> if you wish to continue discussing the the pros/cons on the topic.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -- Rex
>
>
> I missed today's meeting due to $dayjob duties, but I wanted to take a
> moment to note that after careful, deep consideration, I feel this is the
> wrong way to go.
>
> Granted, installing an alternative browser is one of the first things most
> folks do after discovering that the only thing available is Konquerer, but
> that is a conscious choice by the user - a choice that they may not realize
> then pollutes their beautiful Qt based desktop with GTk cruft.
>
> The correct avenue here, in light of the news from the upstream products, is
> to keep the status quo regardless of the lack of usability. When we finally
> get a fully-featured Qt based browser, that is when we switch. We DO NOT
> switch to a GTk based browser that has zero integration with the Plasma
> desktop - single click selection of files and directories within Firefox
> doesn't even work, let alone the theming and other issues. Ironically, those
> two items, as well as integration with kWallet, work fine with Google Chrome
> (which is not a choice in this discussion).
>

Well, there was a third option: don't ship a browser. If Konqueror is
not suitable and only a KDE application could be shipped then that
would have been the thing to do. However I use a KDE desktop (but not
the KDE spin) and Firefox, and I don't find myself thinking whenever I
log in, "I really wish this was better integrated with Plasma". The
first I will do when Firefox gets kwallet integration is find out how
to turn it off.

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk
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