I often find that kdeinit5 reports a crash when I log out. Today the same thing happened when I right-clicked on a window title and selected Special Window Settings (the crash happened when I closed the pop-up). The error says: We are sorry, kdeinit5 closed unexpectedly. You cannot report this error, because kdeinit5 does not provide a bug reporting address. Details: Executable: kdeinit5 PID: nnnn: Aborted (6) Time dd.mm.yyyy hh:mm:ss There is a "Debug" option which fails thus: Reading symbols from /usr/bin/kdeinit5...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/kdeinit5.debug...done. done. Attaching to program: /usr/bin/kdeinit5, process 9024 ptrace: Operation not permitted. (gdb) So we have: 1) No way to copy the error text except manually, which I just did. 2) No bug reporting address. 3) Failing gdb, presumably because kdeinit5 runs as root and not the actual user. I had previously added a comment to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349651, but I'm not sure that's even the right bug report. Suggestions welcome. poc _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org