Eli Wapniarski composed on 2015-07-05 08:04 (UTC+0300): > KDE3 to 4 was a fiasco. It would > seem that despite everything upstream told us as it being easier for the user KDE upstream lives largely in a fantasy world for developers rather than one of functional reality for users. Plans are more grandiose than available resources can support for users needing reliability over the long run. > KDE 4 - 5 is worse maybe not for the developers who have an easier time not > including features like screensavers and system settings and... But for the > people who actually use their computer for work and play KDE 5 as it stands is > a disaster. Kubuntu 15.04 and now Fedora 22 are a travesty on KDE users who need to get real work done rather than fighting with alphaware disguised as release worthy. > KDE 5 is a very well tested ALPHA. Why, because not all the features that are > expected to be there are in place. For those who need to get work done in "KDE", whatever that means any more, there are options: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/FedoraInstall (evolved KDE3 fork for Fedora 21, maybe already or soon in F22) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_13.2/ (extra KDE3 packages beyond those KDE3 in the main openSUSE latest "release" repos) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Factory/ (aka Tumbleweed, openSUSE's "rolling release", currently on kernel 4.0.5 about to goto 4.1, also has retained KDE3 as an option in its main repos that can be installed alongside Plasma5) http://www.mageia.org/en/ (freshly released with 3.19.8 kernel and KDE4) http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=CentOS_7&p=x&f=2 (presumably, CentOS has not yet and won't soon "upgrade" to v5) -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org