Adam Williamson wrote:
> desktop updates, we should do it as soon as possible. I really wish we
> could somehow stop having these situations where the desktop teams
> want to push big updates right after freeze points, as it seems to
> keep happening, but for right now we need to make a decision.
IMHO, this points out two things that are wrong with the freeze process:
• Why is the decision whether to take updates to packages only affecting a
given desktop environment not up to that desktop environment's
maintainers? Those KF5 changes are basically only going to affect our
spin. (Well, there's one or two "Labs" spins derived from the KDE spin,
but those aren't even release-blocking.) Likewise, the GNOME megaupdate
basically only affects Workstation. I see the need for a freeze process
for core shared components, but for the spins*, IMHO, both the decision
what packages to take and the go/no-go call should be up to the respective
spin* maintainers. (That also means that the complex desktop criteria
could be dropped entirely (replaced by an executive decision by the spin*
maintainer) or moved to the individual spin*'s area, freeing you from the
burden of maintaining them.) And if that means we have to wait for a few
days for GNOME/Workstation to be ready or the other way round, so be it,
it is not going to kill anybody. (Or if that really is a problem for some
people, we could start looking into per-spin* releases. But I don't see
the need there.)
* … When I say "spins", I mean both Products/Flavors and Spins. (I still
do not approve of the arbitrary distinction between first-class and
second-class spins, and no such distinction is needed in this context
for sure.)
• We have exactly 2 release-blocking desktops. If both want to get some
important update in right after the freeze, why can't we just delay the
freeze (and accordingly, the release), by a week? I think some more
flexibility would really help us there.
Kevin Kofler
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