On 23 April 2015 at 17:01, Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:55:02 +0000 > Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> First off, thanks for the discussion. However, one thing I've >> learned when dealing with setting defaults is this: best practice is >> to never use yourself as anecdotal evidence. :) >> >> Now, instead of disabling screenlock timeouts altogether, perhaps we >> could find a compromise... > > In my experience with discussions about defaults, reaching consensus > regarding the best default is more an exception than a rule. The > screen locking case seems a prototype example of this, and I doubt > that any proposal will satisfy everyone. > > In that case, if anyone is too annoyed with the default to complain > about it on a mailing list, while at the same time too lazy to make two > trivial clicks, it's a PEBCAK problem, not sanity of the default. > Well, absolutely, but some questions to ask are: 1. Is the default suitable for the majority of people? 2. If people are routinely changing the default, are they all changing it in the same direction? 3. If yes to the above, is there a benefit to a minority that outweighs the inconvenience to the majority? (Bearing in mind those people could also change the default.) Or to put it another way, why not make it two minutes? One minute? That's more secure right? My phone locks after 30 *seconds* (or at least it will when I change it back, as this is a setting I change regularly according to what I'm doing). Picking a default that will keep everyone happy is probably impossible (which is why I don't complain all the time about the clear insanity of not having that focus-follows-mouse switched on), but picking one that everyone will have to change after install needs a reason (username for example, note, I'm not saying everyone has to change to lock timeout, it sounds from this thread like there are people who don't intend to change it from 5 minutes). If the answer to both questions 1 and 2 is no, then worth considering making it more obvious or easier to change as Marko suggests. Though IIRC the screen lock timeout is simple enough to change once you know where it is. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org