Rex Dieter composed on 2015-04-16 16:16 (UTC): >> Felix Miata wrote: >>> I've seen no borders on any windows since KDE4 was removed from the F22 >>> and Rawhide repos. Is this an intentional "feature" of the default theme? > OK, I guess all I can say is that there *are* borders, but they are relatively small. Not sure if this is configurable in breeze (I couldn't find anything quickly offhand). I don't know how anyone is supposed to locate borders in these: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kde5fontselect133-132.jpg https://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=92002 https://bugreports.qt.io/secure/attachment/47873/kf59fontChooseF23-168.jpg http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kf5F22BorderlessPoorA11YbyDefault-132 The last is a full strength .png right out of KSnapshot, no extra compression for saving space or bandwidth. Rex Dieter composed on 2015-04-16 15:37 (UTC-0500): > You can configure bigger border by right clicking any window decoration -> > more actions -> window manager settings Borders should default to genuinely visible. Sides and bottoms are entirely invisible on every one of the more than a dozen F22/F23 installations here in which KF5 doesn't crash attempting to start[1]. > in there is a drop down menu for "Border size", with a multitude of size > options from "no borders" up to "oversized". The default is "Normal" What I want to know is whether this is upstream default design or the result of Fedora's customization, so that I can file an A11Y/U7Y bug in the most appropriate tracker if it hasn't been done already. From where I sit, the whole theme is awful, practically nothing but shades of eyestraining grays. [1] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346244 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org