On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 09:37 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> > I proposed this criterion because history shows that the approach >> > you mention (let's fix it with updates) didn't really work, at least >> > for GNOME. So I'm trying something else, to make sure it gets the >> > attention I believe it deserves. (We reached the same conclusion >> > during our blocker bug review). It seems that people opinions on >> > importance of this feature vary wildly, which is unfortunate. If we >> > don't reach consensus, it can't be a criterion. >> >> Extremely basic functionality of the desktop environment, like user >> switching, is much more important than a bug with any individual >> application. If we don't want to block on user switching, then it's >> time to take a look at the existing blocker criteria and start some >> significant trimming, since we currently block for less >> important-issues. Do we want to have more quality criteria or fewer? >> I'm of the opinion that we should have more if we want to expand the >> audience of Fedora Workstation beyond those who are currently using >> it. When deciding whether something is a blocker, I propose this >> question: "If feature X doesn't work, would a reasonable user new to >> Fedora switch back to his previous OS?" If there's a bug with GNOME >> Calculator, probably not, but if user switching doesn't work and I >> have multiple user accounts, then it's time to find a better distro. > > It is not really relevant if something is 'basic' or not. To decide > whether to block on a bug, you should look at: > > 1) How many users are affected ? > 2) How significantly is their use of the system affected ? > 3) Is there an easy workaround ? > > In all of these, user switching is just not in the same league as logout > or shutdown. > > Having more criteria is good if you have too many qa people who can't > figure out how to spend their time. I absolutely agree here. Thanks for summing this up Matthias. I was having a hard time doing so. josh _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org